The God Delusion?

May 5th, 2009

Working in a high school for the largest school board in the country reminds me daily of why we are all God’s children. Being surrounded by teenagers and observing how they gather in groups like the jocks, the nerds, the fashion models, the invisible kids, the crooks and the bullies, I can’t help but notice that as we mature into adults, those cliques don’t change much but the labels do. The jocks are now brokers, the nerds are now IT technicians, the fashion models are … well, still fashion models. The invisible kids that we never knew were there are now the average working class. The crooks in high school hopefully learn their lessons but if they don’t, they either wind up dead or in jail. The bullies can sometimes be CEOs, Managers or even Union reps.

Some bullies write books now. Instead of trying to intimidate classmates in the schoolyard with threats of beatings after school, they now write books intended to mock and undermine those they view as inferior. Some bullies just never grow up regardless of how many degrees they’ve earned or what position they hold, they still feel a need to put others down. Richard Dawkins is one of those. Caleb Upton is a 17 year old high school student who won’t be intimidated by bullies his own age or even bullies Richard Dawkins’ age. The following is his apologetic response to Richard Dawkins’ book The God Delusion.

Justification by Doubt, the Childish Argument and in Defense of Parents:
A review of The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins
By C.D. Upton

Richard Dawkins is the Charles Simonyi Professor of the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University. His newest treatise is less about science and more focused on the subject of religion. The title says much as to what the book is about. The controversial title is The God Delusion (2006). The two main contentions of the book may be fairly generalized as the belief in the existence of God is a delusion because God’s existence is highly improbable and not only is this belief in the existence of God false but also is dangerous precisely because it is an irrational belief and causes people to do irrational things. This book has had many different reactions ranging from the magicians Penn and Teller’s review that “If this book doesn’t change the world, we’re all screwed”[1] to Andrew Brown, the author of The Darwin Wars describing the book as “Incurious, dogmatic, rambling and self-contradictory, it has none of the style or verve of his earlier works.”[2] Brown’s review may seem harsh to some but it is very accurate. Dawkins approach obscures his research, his central argument is not well thought out and his views even take him to quasi-fundamentalist extremes. A delusion is a false belief that is believed despite being contradicted by the evidence, it is sad to say that Dawkins’ whole approach leads him not only to obscure facts but also to hold on to a delusion.

The footnotes at the back of the book while at a cursory glance appear to be reasonable; they give some troubling information that should make one question whether this book was an objective study at all. Despite from using very credible sources Dawkins also uses blogs,[3] Playboy magazine[4] and even Wikipedia.[5] High school students for the most part are not be allowed to use Wikipedia because on Wikipedia anything could be posted because it is a public think-tank, even a dog could post something on Wikipedia. However Dawkins will even use Wikipedia as a source to advance his point. The point being made by Dawkins with evidence posted on Wikipedia was the claim that President Bush mocked a female prisoner on death row.[6] The question is not even whether the information is true or not but because of the fact that some of Dawkins’ sources are not very reliable it could be brought into question as to the objectivity of this book and whether Dawkins’ own arguments should be taken with great seriousness. While the reliability of Dawkins sources is troubling what is even more troubling is the quasi-conspiracy suspicion that Dawkins has to those who disagree with him. In the preface to the paperback edition of the book Dawkins says “ ‘I used to be an atheist, but…’ That is one of the oldest tricks in the book, much favored by religious apologists…It serves to establish some sort of street cred up front, and it is amazing how often it works. Look out for it.”[7] To say that the claim made by religious apologists of their former atheism is a ‘trick’ is absolutely appalling; it is just empty slander against those who disagree with him. Dawkins distaste for those who disagree with him is prevalent throughout the book. His criticism of Stephen Jay Gould, the famous Harvard paleontologist is directed along the same lines “I simply do not believe that Gould could possibly have meant much of what he wrote in Rocks of Ages. As I say, we have all been guilty of bending over backwards…”[8] Again it all comes back to what Dawkins believes, anything that does not agree with Dawkins’ point of view must either be the product of madness, badness, appeasement or it is simply deceptive. However Dawkins holds his position with such great certainty that he may even reject a serious study of a whole field of inquiry that is central to his book because he has already made up his mind. Dawkins in the preface to the paperback edition in response to this particular criticism said “…most of us happily disavow fairies, astrology and the Flying Spaghetti monster, without first immersing ourselves in books of Pastafarian theology etc…”[9] Terry Eagleton the John Edward Taylor professor of English Literature at Manchester in his review of the book said

“Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology. Card-carrying rationalists like Dawkins… are in one sense the least well-equipped to understand what they castigate, since they don’t believe there is anything there to be understood, or at least anything worth understanding.”[10]

Dawkins’ questionable sources, quasi-conspiracy suspicion of those who disagree with him and his justification by doubt for his rejection of studying seriously the subject he is writing on are perhaps the reasons that lead him to construct what is possibly the worst argument in the whole treatise, his central argument.

Dawkins’ central argument consists of six main points[11] but it may be fairly summarized that the so-called defeating of the Designer Hypothesis is the foundation for the whole argument. Dawkins states

“The natural temptation is to attribute the appearance of design to actual design itself. In the case of a man-made artefact such as a watch, the designer really was an intelligent engineer. It is tempting to apply the same logic to an eye or a wing, a spider or a person. The temptation is a false one, because the designer hypothesis immediately raises the larger problem of who designed the designer.”[12]

When addressed with an argument like this one feels like a mosquito in a nudist park, one has no idea where to begin. When we talk about ‘the Designer’ in this context of the book we are speaking of the designer of everything that exists and with the implication that the Designer would not be included in that which was brought into existence. So to ask ‘Who designed the designer?’ is a false and categorically wrong question because whoever the designer of the designer of everything maybe, that designer would be the designer of everything and of course if one continues along this chain of continual causation one would end of with an infinite regress. Two possible solutions to the problem of infinite regress would be either to postulate out of pure necessity a fundamental cause that had no cause of it’s own existence, or in other terms an eternal substance; the other solution would be to postulate that something could come out of nothing and thus deny the fundamental foundation of most philosophies of causation that everything that begins to exist has a cause. The rejection of this foundation to causation that everything that begins to exist has a cause would unravel the discipline of science, for if things could pop into existence out of nothing by nothing and for nothing then no explanation would be needed for such things. Theists who would argue for the existence of the Designer would state that the Designer is an uncaused cause and thus needing no other designer, the Designer would be an eternal substance. Dawkins dismissal of an eternal causation is characteristic of his regular rejection of views that disagree with him. Dawkins rejection of the primary objection to his argument is deeply concerning “It may ever be a superhuman designer—but, if so, it will most certainly not be a designer who just popped into existence, or who always existed.”[13] Nothing more than a pure rejection of the objection, there was no detailed reason as to why he rejected it or evidence or logical argument offered but just a pure dogmatic insistence that it cannot be so. Furthermore under examination if the same logic was applied to the analogy of the watchmaker applied by Dawkins a watchmaker would not be a proper explanation for the existence of a watch because then the question of ‘Who made the watchmaker?’ would have to arise because a watchmaker would have to be much more complicated than the watch they made. In other words one does not need an explanation for the explanation in order for the explanation to be the best one. Dawkins’ question is a misunderstanding of the Designer under discussion; his rejection of the primary answer offered to the question is flatly rejected with no reason as to why he rejects it, and his logic when applied to other areas becomes explicitly absurd. Rather than a central argument it should be called a childish argument, but if we were to have things Dawkins’ way children would for the most part never ask such questions for children would have very little knowledge of such subjects.

Perhaps the section of the book that is most existentially disturbing is titled ‘In Defence of Children’. At first glance Dawkins chapter on religion and children would appear to be harmless as it mostly is a suggestion for a simple labeling change much like changing the label of a conservative politician to a neo-conservative politician however a further read would show that a larger agenda is pursued. Freedom of speech is a very controversial right in modern democracies because the limitations of such a freedom are highly debated. Dawkins in support of his colleague Nicholas Humphrey, a psychologist recounts a speech of Humphrey’s in which a suggestion for a limitation on freedom of speech is espoused

“His [Humphrey’s] answer was a resounding no to such censorship in general: ‘Freedom of speech is too precious a freedom to be meddled with’. But he then went on to shock his liberal self advocating one important exception: to argue in favour of censorship for special case of children… moral and religious education, and especially the education a child receives at home, where parents are allowed—even expected—to determine for their children what counts as truth and falsehood, right and wrong. Children, I’ll argue, have a human right not to have their minds crippled by exposure to other people’s bad ideas—no matter who these other people are. Parents, correspondingly, have no God-given licence to enculturate their children in whatever ways they personally choose…”[14]

Again a mosquito in a nudist park is a wonderful analogy to explain how one does not even know where to begin in criticism of such a suggestion. This suggestion is espousing a right for children to learn freely and yet at the same time is also prohibiting a parental right (which is called a ‘God-given licence’ in mockery) of parents to teach their children in matters of religion and morality. However, such a prohibition against parents teaching their children on matters of morality and religion would have be to applied consistently to other areas of study such as geography, chemistry and even reading and writing; for a child should not have their ‘minds crippled’ by exposure to other’s ideas, they would have to learn for themselves. Children however are known to be ignorant on such matters from birth and therefore have to be taught by an authority figure such as a parent in order to be educated; religion and morality should not be excluded from such education made by parents. The reason that may be fairly speculated on as to why the topics of religion and morality are singled out as subjects that parents may not teach to their children is for the simple reason that Humphrey and Dawkins both are convinced that there is nothing to be learned from traditional religion and morality; both of them being atheists are already convinced that religion and absolute (or traditional) morality is wrong and imaginary. Dawkins’ own ignorance on matters of religion as shown in his approach and his central argument appear to be the ideals that Dawkins would wish to spread. Dawkins, in what would be to seem as a desperate attempt to distance himself from such a position states, “Of course, such a strong statement needs, and received, much qualification… I thank my own parents for taking the view that children should be taught not so much what to think as how to think.”[15] However a difference between how to think and what to think in this context is not a difference at all for parents teaching their children how to think could leave their ‘minds crippled’ just as much as what to think. For example a parent teaching their child that they must think within the framework of what they can see with their eyes (how to think) could close their child’s mind from other view points just as much if a parent were to indoctrinate their child that a martyr’s death will give them a lot of virgins in Heaven. The point is that how to think and what to think are no different in the respect that they both put limitations on the child’s search for knowledge. It is inescapable that a primary teacher and ‘indoctrinator’ in a child’s upbringing must be their parents/guardians unless we decide that a child no longer belongs to the parents/guardians but perhaps to the state. Dawkins, while being very compassionate about the rights of children and nobly attacking child abuse in his section titled ‘In Defence of Children’ is to be commended, perhaps what is needed is also a defense of parents. The suggestion made by Humphrey that parents should not be allowed to teach their children on matters of religion or morality is shown when critically examined to not only having an absurd logic but is also a demonstration of Dawkins and Humphrey’s own personal incredulity towards religion and traditional morality.

Andrew Brown makes an interesting comment at the end of his review of the book in Prospect magazine “…thinking a bit was once what Dawkins was famous for. It’s a shame to see him reduced to one long argument from professional incredulity.”[16] To say that Dawkins needed to think a bit while writing his book maybe somewhat harsh but it appears to be true. Dawkins whole approach from his sloppy research, to his quasi-conspiracy suspicion of those who disagree with him to his justification by doubt for his rejection of studying seriously the subject he is writing on are demonstrations of his need to think a bit. His central argument is a complete misunderstanding of the being, which he denies exists; his rejection of the primary objection raised against his central argument is dismissed with no justification and the logic is absurd and thus leaves the central argument as a childish argument. The most disturbing aspect of his book is his defense of children, which is more of a demonstration of Dawkins personal incredulity towards the subjects of morality and religion and is in need of a defense of parents. Contrary to Dawkins’ two main contentions that the belief in the existence of God is a delusion and that this irrational belief causes people to do dangerous things it appears that Dawkins central argument against the existence of God is irrational and that Dawkins’s own view has led him to propose irrational things as well. It is perhaps Dawkins’ who has the delusion about God and not those whom he wishes to convert.

Notes

[1] Dawkins, Richard. The God Delusion. 2nd ed. New York: Mariner Books, 2008.
[2] Brown, Andrew. “Dawkins the dogmatist.” Prospect Magazine October. 2006. 29 Dec., 2008.
[3] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 437.
[4] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 438.
[5] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 445.
[6 ]Dawkins, The God Delusion, 330.
[7] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 13. (emphasis added)
[8] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 81. (emphasis original)
[9] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 15.
[10] Eagleton, Terry. “Lunging, Flailing, Mispunching.” London Review of Books 19 October, 2006. 29 December 2008.
[11] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 187-189
[12] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 188.
[13] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 186. (emphasis original)
[14] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 366.
[15] Dawkins, The God Delusion, 367. (emphasis original)
[16] Brown, Andrew. “Dawkins the dogmatist.” Prospect Magazine October. 2006. 29 Dec.,2008.

Bibliography

Brown, Andrew. “Dawkins the dogmatist.” Prospect Magazine October. 2006. 29 Dec. 2008.

Dawkins, Richard. The God Delusion. 2nd ed. New York: Mariner Books, 2008.

Eagleton, Terry. “Lunging, Flailing, Mispunching.” London Review of Books 19 October, 2006. 29 December 2008.

Krauss, Lawrence M. “Sermons and Straw Men” Nature Magazine 26 October 2006. 29 December 2008.

McGrath, Alister and McGrath, Jonna. The Dawkins Delusion: Atheism Fundamentalism and the Denial of the Divine. Downers Grove, Illinois: Inter-varsity Press, 2007

2008 Annual Report

February 7th, 2009

ARM2008.jpgThe end of 2008 marked the end of five years of volunteer ministry for Apologetic Response Ministries (A.R.M.). This past year we focused much of our time on new publishing projects which are still in the works as well as more one-on-one time spent with individuals looking for information and forming relationships through email and in person. We also spent our time with members of the LDS church, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Muslims. Although we cannot share our personal conversations here on the web, we can share with you some of the seminars and events that we participated in the past year as well as those of other ministries which we partnered with and promoted through our mailing list.

January
AtheismvsTheismpic.jpgThroughout this whole year our friends Basil Christi at The Church of St. Mark - Lutheran in Mississauga and Rev. Tony Costa were both very busy in various events that we at A.R.M. were pleased to promote and participate in. This month we promoted the Atheism vs. Theism debate between Christopher Hitchens and Jay W. Richards broadcast by CCN and shown at St. Mark’s Lutheran. This seminar DVD can be purchased at CCN.TV. We also promoted Tony Costa’s Lecture at Queen’s University called Life After Death’ in Christianity, Islam and Buddhism.

February
Caleb.jpgThis month I was both pleased and proud to post the first of what I hope will be many of apologetic responses written by my son Caleb. He wrote a review of The Jesus Dynasty written by Dr. James Tabor called ‘Where’s The Crown?’ ChristInPassover.jpgWe promoted Christ in The Passover event presented by Richard Muller of Jews For Jesus Canada at St. Mark’s Lutheran.
SeeingIsBelieving.jpgOther events we promoted were the Believing is Seeing event presented by RZIM Canada at Cedarview Community Church in Newmarket Ontario and theWarofWorldviews.jpg War of Worldviews debates presented by The Berean Call in Whitby Ontario and moderated by Michael Coren and Peter Koropatwa. Debaters included Shabir Ally, Christopher DiCarlo, Budhendranauth Doobay, Dave Hunt and Frank Sherwin.

March
TonyCosta.jpgInvestigatingFaith.jpgThis month we promoted Tony Costa’s seminar Apologetics: Tools Defending the Christian Faith held at the Annual Toronto Missions Fest as well as the Toronto Passion Play held at Queensway Cathedral in Etobicoke Ontario. We also promoted the Investigating Faith day long live broadcast on CCN featuring Lee Strobel and Mark Mittleburg held at St. Mark’s Lutheran in Mississauga Ontario.

April
HowToInterpretBible.jpgTony Costa was busy this month starting with Hermeneutics and Exegesis: How to Interpret the Bible Seminar at Calvary Church in downtown Toronto and The Bible: Fact or Fable? seminar at Zion United Reformed Church in Sheffield Ontario. Tony also taught sessions at Richmond Hill Chinese Community Church in Richmond Hill Ontario called Responding to The New Atheism and Evangelising Muslims at Trinity Baptist Church in Burlington Ontario. CopernicusLectures.jpgWe also promoted The Copernicus Lecture Series on Science & Faith held in Agincourt Mall in Scarborough Ontario.

May
RaviZacharias.jpgPrinceCaspianMay17th.jpgMay was a month for movies. We promoted the CCN broadcast of Ravi Zacharias called What Does It Mean To Be Human held at St. Mark’s Lutheran as well as the Prince Caspian Movie Event also hosted by St. Mark’s Lutheran at Queensway Cineplex in Etobicoke Ontario.

June
GaryHabermas.jpgPromoted Dealing With Doubt: The Truth About the Resurrection with Dr. Gary Habermas CCN broadcast at St. Mark’s Lutheran. Promoted Tony Costa’s Apologetics Ministry three Sundays in June for his 3 part lecture series on Christian Apologetics at Grace Bible Church in Scarborough Ontario. FilipinoPastors.jpgWe also gave a three hour seminar on cults for a group of 8 local Filipino Pastoral Candidates providing them with the tools they need to help the new Canadians in their churches.

July
wp1.jpgPromoted Pastor Werner Peter’s seminar on Five Point Calvinism at Westmount Park Church in Etobicoke, Ontario.

August
Tony&Greg.jpgA.R.M. partnered with Tony Costa’s Apologetics Ministry three Sundays in August for his 3 part lecture series on Christian Apologetics at Grace Bible Church in Scarborough Ontario by providing a resource table for attendees.

September
SolaScriptura.jpgThis month we promoted The Faith Once Delivered: A Response to the New Atheism conference featuring Michael Haykin, Tony Costa and Joe Boot presented by Sola Scriptura Ministries International at Covenant Reformed Church in Etobicoke, Ontario. truth_project_fotf.jpgWe also promoted The Truth Project Simulcast Live event broadcast by CCN in various locations in Ontario. TheTrinityTonyCosta.jpgAlso promoted Tony Costa’s all day seminar The Trinity: God’s Nature and Attributes hosted at Calvary Church in downtown Toronto. Ignite.jpgAnother event this month was the Ignite Our Culture Conference - Islam: The Threat At The Door held at The Crossroads Centre in Burlington Ontario. We also alerted our mailing list to an event called Break The Walls Down: Breaking Down The Walls of Misconception of Islam and Judaism held at Fellowship Baptist Church Markham in Markham Ontario. Also Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum gave a series of lectures at Markham Bible Chapel on The Church and The Jew. We were once again invited to set up a resource table at Grace Bible Church in Scarborough to enhance a three part teaching series on World Religions delivered by Tony Costa. DineshDSouzapic.jpgSt. Mark’s once again hosted another great broadcast on CCN called What’s So Great About Christianity? featuring Mark Mittleburg and Dinesh D’Souza. Finally, we also notified our mailing list of an evening hosted by the Orangeville congregation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints called Are Mormons Christian? giving our readership the opportunity to attend to challenge the claims of the Mormon church and share the real gospel with those in attendance.

October
CaseForChristpic.jpgSt. Mark’s hosted a public showing of Lee Strobel’s new film The Case For Christ - The Film. A.R.M. partnered again with Tony Costa’s Apologetics Ministry for his lecture called Answering Major Objections Against Christianity providing a resource table at Grace Bible Church in Scarborough. WhatsTheDifference.jpgSt. Marks Lutheran hosted A.R.M. for an all day conference featuring Vincent Poldrugovac speaking on Who Are the Latter-day Saints?, Rev. Dr. Ernest Hahn speaking on Sharing The Gospel With Muslims, Joe Boot Responding to The New Atheism and myself on the subject of Jehovah’s Witnesses: Should I Not Be Concerned? The audio files of these sessions were recorded by Ryan Kidd who also posted them on sermonaudio.ca and can now be heard by clicking here.

November
CambridgeChurch.jpgTony Costa spoke on the theme Defending the Word in Faith and Deed at the Brainard College and Career Retreat in Cambridge Ontario hosted by Grace Bible Church Cambridge. Ravi Zacharias International Ministries presented Believing Is Seeing with a number of speakers at Bethal Bible Chapel in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. Sola Scriptura Ministries International held a two day conference called “In My Place Condemned HE Stood” - Justification, The Cross and God hosted by Free Reformed Church in St. Thomas Ontario. A.R.M. presented Is Mormonism Christian? at Markham Christian Community Church in Markham Ontario.

December
Raviforchristmas.jpgRavi Zacharias spoke at Cedarview Community Church in Newmarket Ontario for an evening called Capture The Wonder of Christmas.

Other Activities That Kept Us Busy

expelledpic.jpgWe promoted Ben Stein’s film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed to our mailing list when it came out in theatres as well as on DVD and Youtube. This year was also another busy year for Seventh-day Adventists distributing tracts in our area which resulted an apologetic response from us through email conversations. We were also contacted by James Kieferdorf in Dallas Texas who has been very active in alerting Christian media outlets of television and radio programs that are run by splinter groups of The Worldwide Church of God who still hold to and teach Herbert W. Armstrong’s heresies. He alerted us to the fact that a Canadian broadcaster called The Christian Channel was broadcasting a number of heretical groups on their station who denied the doctrine of the trinity even though the station claims that all programs adhere to that essential truth of our faith. We wrote to The Christian Channel with the same concerns that James Kieferdorf did but to date have still not received any reply.

We also alerted readers to a new cult group in Toronto called Toronto International Christian Church which is under the leadership of Kip McKean who started The Boston Movement. His new movement is different in name only. We continue to keep our readers up to date with the latest news from Lawrence Hughes and his ongoing battle against the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and this year we were also introduced to another legal battle brewing between Walter Kambulow of Burlington Ontario and the leaders of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship. Mr. Kambulow had set up several websites and mailing lists accusing the TACF of fraud and misappropriation of funds among other allegations. In turn, the leaders of the TACF filed a 50 million dollar lawsuit against Mr. Kambulow claiming he had caused irreparable damage to the ministries of TACF accusing him of slander. A court date was set in October of 2008 when evidence would be presented from both sides. The TACF withdrew their lawsuit prior to the date and now, according to Mr. Kambulow, he intends to file a lawsuit against them.

ENSIGNpic.jpgOn a more positive note, we accepted an invitation this past summer to a Mormon church to meet with some missionaries there. They gave us a tour of the building and we spent about an hour in conversation with them with the end result of them accepting copies of Vincent Poldrugovac’s book ENSIGN: Raising The Banner of Truth and agreeing to read it and respond. Vincent also kept busy this year writing and publishing booklets on Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormonism to share with local churches as well as arranging several meetings with Mormon missionaries and engaging in email conversations and online debates with a number of Mormons. Neil Bulloch continued to offer tours of local mosques for Christians and introducing Christians to Muslims to form ongoing relationships with them. We also partnered with Fellowship of Faith for the Muslims - Canada in a sharing of resources by providing reproduction of Muslim testimony DVDs for distribution.

Comments

For those readers who have supported this ministry with your prayers and generous gifts of support and also for the benefit of those who may only have just heard of this ministry, I’d like to share some encouraging words from some folks who have been served and encouraged by The Apologetic Response:

GregTupas.jpg“I’m happy to recommend the Apologetics Response Ministry to all churches. I have found it to be an excellent source of apologetic materials that benefited many of our church members. I thank David for providing us with high quality materials DVD, Books, CD’s and handouts for our church library.”
In Christ Service,

Pastor Greg Tupas
Grace Bible Church - Scarborough

ErnieHahn.jpg“David, I wish to state my appreciation for your Christian apologetics ministry. I hope that many other congregations will take advantage of it in the interest of our Lord’s Gospel. Thanks also for your help in arranging for the seminar at The Church of St. Mark - Lutheran.
In Jesus,

Rev. Dr. Ernest Hahn - Toronto
Fellowship of Faith for the Muslims - Canada
P.S. And many thanks for delivering the Arabic Bibles to Maryam Kakoose.

DanielLee1.jpg“David’s presentation on mormonism was very insightful and of great benefit to our congregation. We would love to have him back to speak to us again! May the Lord continue to use him and his ministry to equip the church. Thanks again David!”
Pastor Daniel Lee
Markham Christian Community Church - Markham

JoeBoot1.jpg“The Apologetic Response is a ministry faithfully seeking to equip the saints to give an answer for the hope that is in them. I was delighted to speak at one of their seminar programs in 2008. We need more people and programs such as this to equip the church in an time when the West is facing crisis and collapse due to the abandonment of Christianity”.
Rev. Joe Boot
Westminster Chapel - Toronto

MaxRideout.jpg“As a worker with international students I appreciate Dave’s periodic emails that help with evangelism and warn of new cults and pseudo-Christian groups.”
Max Rideout
Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship of Canada - Toronto

PaulRalph.jpg“It’s a pleasure being a recipient of The Apologetic Response. I particularly appreciate the regular updates informing me of various events taking place in Toronto and surrounding areas. Keep it coming.”
Paul Edward Ralph
Executive Director
RZIM Canada - Toronto

Verlepic.jpgBro David, thanks for the good work. Could you please put me on your mail-outs that you are sending to others, as it would be most helpful for me in my teaching here in the Philippines. We have very limited access to such good information, and over here, it is like “The hurrier I go, the behinder I get”.  Thank you so much and may God bless you richly in your Work!
Yours because of Calvary

Bro. Verle Streifling - Philippines

CecilAndrewspic.jpg“Thank you for these recent helpful comments. On our ministry website www.takeheed.net we have several articles on the linkage between Todd Bentley and Toronto. I would covet prayer for the following - I have been invited by the local Radio Ulster to take part in a panel discussion on their Sunday Sequence programme this coming Sunday morning 22nd June. I would very much appreciate your prayers for wisdom and for the ready recollection of scriptures.
Your servant for Christ”

Cecil Andrews
‘Take Heed’ Ministries - Ireland

And this one came especially for Caleb all the way from Bulgaria!!

AndrewNedelchevpic.jpg“Thumbs up, Caleb! A very good essay for a high-school student. By all means, go on and develop your mind. I especially like the conclusion, where you actually praise Tabor and at the same time ephasise that his approach is terribly flawed. There is a great need for Christians, who think maturely, read opposing views and respond with deep understanding, honesty and grace. You are on the right path!
Greetings from Bulgaria,”

Andrew Nedelchev
Board Member of the HARTA Association
www.harta-bg.info
(In Bulgarian the name HARTA is an acronym for “Christian Apologetics for Intelligent, Inquiring and Active Bulgarians”, while the word “harta” actually means “charter” as in “Charter of the United Nations”.)

Although we cannot share everything that we do due to confidentiality and privacy concerns, we can share a few examples of some of the correspondence we receive. The following request came from a reader who has been studying with Jehovah’s Witnesses:

“I have been studying with Jehovah’s witnesses for some time. Their version of the Bible disturbs me a lot. I was originally of the Hindu faith. But, I wanted to know about Chritianity proper. But after associating with Jehovah’s Witnesses I seem to be losing the respect I once had for Christianity itself. Please help.”
Posted by Chelvan
Who’s Watching The Watchtower?

The following came from a new Canadian in Scarborough from the Philippines who was a high-ranking Mormon for 23 years:

“Dear David,
I want to say thank you for your time in sharing to us your experience and some gospel principles. The DVDs that you provided are all worthy to see for me to discover more hidden truths about Mormonism. Thank you for giving your honest observations about the Mormon Church. On behalf of my family, I would like to express my appreciation for the warm reception you have accorded to us yesterday when we attended both the prayer meeting and the worship services. I feel the holy spirit for every prayer uttered during the prayer meeting and I feel joy in spirit when the congregation sang the worship songs. You’re one of the persons David that I considered as instrumental in bringing to us the gospel truth, although we have known each other in a very brief fashion.”

Ramon Rodriguez

Armlogolg.jpgAs you can probably tell by now, our ministry has gone beyond the GTA to the world as a result of this wonder we call the world wide web! According to our latest ClusterMap we have readers in over 30 countries! Of those we have received personal correspondence and requests for information from Tobago, Honduras, Florida, Texas, Japan, Bulgaria, Ireland and the Philippines!

We are primarily however a local ministry so please remember the ‘Mission at Your Door.’ Toronto has over 5 million souls with over 100 languages and dialects spoken daily. 50% of GTA residents speak a language other than English in their home, 43% are part of visible minorities, and 49% were born outside of Canada!! Toronto is what Paul Carden referred to as 5 continents in a can!! If we are going to make an impact globally, we’ve got to make an impact locally! Please pray.

About Us

booktable2.jpgThe beginning of 2009 marks the beginning of our sixth year as non-profit volunteer ministry consisting of myself, David Upton, Vincent Poldrugovac and Neil Bulloch offering seminars on Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormonism and Islam. At every seminar we offer free materials as well as materials from our resource table for purchase. We also promote other ministries and events in and around our city when we are notified of them through our friends in ministry. Our mailing list alerts readers to notable web articles, events related to our ministry or others who are doing similar work in the city as well as functioning as our primary tool of communication with readers who need further information, materials or prayer requests.

Vincentseminar2.jpgWe are uniquely called to equip the body of Christ to meet the challenges of competing world views that are misinformed about the Christian faith and who Christ is. With our city of Toronto growing rapidly with almost 50% of our population being new Canadians, we are equipping individuals and churches with the tools they need to not only learn about other world views but to also learn how to share the Christian faith with them. This is accomplished through our web ministry, monthly seminars, resource table and outreach materials.

daveteaching2.jpgHaving served and equipped individuals and churches from over 20 different denominations from as far west as Brampton to as far east as Scarborough, we are equipped to come to your church or small group with videos, handouts, powerpoint presentations and live speakers to answer questions and share with your group ways to share your faith with friends, family and neighbors in ways you may not have thought of before.

Financial Report

Support for this ministry comes solely from the gifts of A.R.M. friends. We are not funded or endowed by any group, church, or denomination. Because we are a volunteer based ministry donations are not tax refundable. Donations to this ministry that make are jobs easier are especially appreciated. This year we were blessed with a new Epson colour printer and an eMac computer. A new MacBook laptop computer for presentations is on our prayer list for this year! Hint hint :-)

How You can Help

Please write to us at apologeticresponse@rogers.com if you are interested in hosting ARM seminars in your church or small group or even if you just need further information or clarification on anything in this report. You can also write by snail-mail to:

The Apologetic Response
P.O. Box 282, Stn. D
Etobicoke, ON.
M9A 4X2
CANADA

Please Pray:

- For wisdom, guidance and direction as we offer apologetic responses to the world around us.
- For those who are angry and/or confused, that the Holy Spirit would use this ministry to speak to their hearts and minds to receive the free gift of salvation that He has to offer.
- For protection from those who would seek to discourage and/or undermine this ministry. (I have chosen not to post any of the negative emails and postings we receive)

Thanks

First and foremost to our Lord Jesus Christ for sustaining this ministry this year. Thanks also go to my friends and brothers in Christ who have helped so much this past year, Vincent Poldrugovac, Basil Christi, Neil Bulloch, and Tony Costa. I’d also like to thank Peter Cavanaugh and Tom Konstantindis for their technical support. I’d also like to thank the churches who hosted our seminars in 2008: Pastor Werner Peters and the congregation of Westmount park Church, Daniel Lee and the congregation of Markham Christian Community Church, Basil Christi and the congregation of The Church of St. Mark - Lutheran, and Pastor Greg Tupas and the congregation of Grace Bible Church. Special thanks to all the individuals and ministries who contributed resources to share with churches in Toronto; Fellowship of Faith for the Muslims - Canada, Good News For LDS, IRR.org, Ezra Books, Free CD Tracts, and The Centers For Apologetics Research. I also would like to thank all those who have contributed to this ministry with your financial contributions, donations of equipment and your prayers. Thank you also to those who have written kind and encouraging comments both on the web site and privately. Encouraging words are as valuable and needed as money and prayers. Last but not least, I thank my wonderful wife Heather whom I affectionately refer to as ‘Holy Heather full of Grace’ simply because she is and my faith filled son Caleb who never ceases to amaze me in so many ways.

May God Richly Bless You All in 2009,

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David Upton

The Apologetic Response
February 2009